Conversation with Caribbean Man (BHI/Possibly a Warlock)
Are you a Minister? The Encounter
I came to a group of people who came for the block party in Winter Garden.
I asked if they got prayed for and was about to ask if anyone needed any prayer.
Then a man, early 35–40, asked me if I am a minister.
Strange thing is, I never spoke this way to anyone.
I told him, “I am a disciple of Jesus.”
He asked, “Who made you a disciple?”
I told him, “Jesus Christ Himself, the King of Glory” — Mark 16:15–20:
“And He said to them, ‘Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons;
they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents;
and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them;
they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.’”
Jesus Means Everything to Me
He asked, “What does Jesus mean for you?”
I felt the atmosphere was not so pleasant. I shifted gears — there was a sudden shift in my voice and I spoke with profound declaration:
“Jesus Christ is my Lord, my Savior, my God, my purpose, my breath of life.
He set me free from pornography, He has given me a purpose, He has made me clean,
and He washed me in His blood, and He is my Lord.”
The 144,000 Debate Begins
Then we went into a deep conversation, and he began to start attacking or asking questions regarding the 144,000 in the millennial reign. He was subtly saying that only for the Jews is the 144,000 given, and the rest have to be under them.
So I spoke everything out of the Scriptures. I talked about the Law of Moses that was given to Israel through Moses (not Abraham), yet even for Abraham, in order for them to be a part of God’s plan, the faith of Abraham activated blessings for generations — Genesis 15:6:
“And he believed in the LORD, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.”
But men fail again and again, and God Himself had to come and deliver His people — this time not with the blood of sheep, bulls, or animals, but with the blood of the King.
John 1:1–3, 14:
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made…
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory,
the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.”
Did Jesus Really Leave His Throne?
He asked, “Did Jesus really leave His throne?”
I said sternly, “Yes. He left His throne. He fulfilled the prophecy God gave Himself when He cursed the serpent and cursed the woman” — Genesis 3:15:
“And I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.”
Jesus came to fulfill the prophecy, lived a sinless life, and fulfilled all the laws He created. He came to show the way for each and everyone.
Through Moses came the law — the law came to give guidelines to lead a holy life, a life which depicts holiness, advanced civilization, moral soundness, and perfection. God wanted to show the rest of the nations that Yahweh, the God of Israel, is the true God.
God gave them 613 laws, but time and time again — from kings down to the people of Israel — they failed to follow them. They followed the laws, praised God, and offered sacrifices, but they were far from the real worship of God.
The intentions of man were always evil — Genesis 6:5:
“Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth,
and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
God had to stop the evil agenda of Satan until He came to the point where He decided to wipe out the entire human race. But one man, Noah, found grace in His sight — Genesis 6:8:
“But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.”
Israelites Waiting for the Messiah
I told him, “There are Israelites even now waiting for the Messiah — the second coming of Messiah. Those who reject Yeshua, the Salvation, will be judged based on the Law of Moses.
Having faith in His sacrifice, having faith in His redemption plan, and through the confession of my own faith that Jesus Christ is my Lord — through Him only I have salvation. He is the only way to my Father.
I have become a son. No longer am I an orphan, but I am grafted into His Kingdom.”
John 14:6 (NKJV):
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”
Romans 8:15 (NKJV):
For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”
Who Will Rule?
He asked, “Who will be the rulers in the 144,000?”
When I spoke about salvation and my assurance that after death I would be united with Christ, he smirked and said, “Yes, I know that you know you have salvation through Jesus, but do you know who will be the rulers?”
I answered, “This I know for sure — salvation is free, not by works or good deeds, but only through Jesus Christ.”
I then recalled the parable of the talents:
Matthew 25:14–30 (NKJV) (summary): The master gave one servant five talents, another two, and another one. The first doubled his to ten, the second doubled his to four, but the third buried his in the ground. When the master returned, he rewarded the first two and called the third “wicked and lazy,” taking his talent and giving it to the one who had ten.
Salvation is a free gift. Ephesians 2:8–9 (NKJV):
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Obedience, however, is what brings rewards. I believe the obedience to what the Word says, and how we use the talents God gives, is key.
Mark 10:44 (NKJV):
And whoever of you desires to be first shall be slave of all.
I told him, “Once we are adopted as sons, grafted into the Kingdom of God through Jesus, if I had to choose a tribe, I would say the Lion of the tribe of Judah.”
The Pride of Lineage
He thought I meant that he belonged to the same tribe.
He said proudly, “Yes, I belong to the Lion of the tribe of Judah. I am the chosen bloodline — the rulers of the millennial reign.”
In my heart, I felt there was no testimony in his words, no glorification of Jesus Christ in his speech.
It reminded me of the Pharisees who said, “We have Abraham as our father” — John 8:39 (NKJV):
They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.”
Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham.”
I remembered when Jesus was riding the donkey and the Pharisees told Him to rebuke His disciples for shouting, “Hosanna.”
Luke 19:40 (NKJV):
But He answered and said to them, “I tell you that if these should keep silent, the stones would immediately cry out.”
God doesn’t need Abraham — if He wants, He can raise children of Abraham from stones (Matthew 3:9).
“We Will Reign Over You”
He then said, “I know you have salvation, you belong to the multitudes of nations, but we are the ones who will reign over the millennium.”
I told him, “This is what I understand — rulership has to be given by the Father. Through obedience and labor, one would be rewarded.
Once I was lost and a sinner, now I am found in Christ. I have a purpose for my life. I am precious to the Father who created me. I abide in Christ, and He abides in me, and we abide in the Father.
All I need is fellowship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. If I have fellowship with my Father, my life is fulfilled. I don’t care if I am a slave or servant in the millennial reign. All I want is to be with my Father. I am pleased to have a place through Christ, who gave me this place.”
The Promise for Those Who Love Him
After the conversation, the Holy Spirit reminded me:
1 Corinthians 2:9 (NKJV):
But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
I truly believe it is not I who judge or decide what I am going to do in the millennial rulership. I would be content to be a beggar in the presence of Christ — that would be enough for my life to be fulfilled.
I also remembered Abraham speaking to the rich man in Hades about Lazarus:
Luke 16:24–26 (NKJV):
Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’
But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.’
Bloodline Promises & the Reality of Judgment
If bloodline and being born carnally carried so many promises, yet there are people who are in hell, then not all the descendants of Abraham are in the bosom of Abraham.
Instead of the Law, the covenant through Abraham, and the covenant through Moses, we now have a much better covenant — the covenant through the blood of Christ.
Hebrews 8:6 (NKJV):
But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
The Man’s Name & a Pastor’s Warning
He asked me my name; I said, “AJ.” I asked his; he said it used to be Michael but now it is Raphael (or something similar) with a certain root meaning.
I thought to myself, “What was this conversation all about?” He asked, he heard, and then he left.
Pastor later told me, “The man you spoke to is a warlock. He does Santeria, practices witch craft or voodoo. I could feel the pride the first time I spoke to him. I do not want to waste time. And as you were speaking, we were praying for you”
After I spoke, I just felt it was the spirit of Leviathan that spoke through him, because of the pride I could see.
Job 41:34 (NKJV):
He beholds every high thing;
He is king over all the children of pride.
True Testimony Glorifies Christ
If he were truly a believer, he would not boast about himself, how great he is, or his bloodline. He would say:
“I was lost, so far away, destined to hell — but the Father, in His gracious mercy, allowed me to take a U-turn, turn away from sin, and gave me a way to escape eternal damnation. I do not even deserve to be called a son, yet He adopted me and gave me the best gift — the Holy Spirit — and sealed me for the day of redemption.”
Ephesians 1:13–14 (NKJV):
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation;
in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Born-again believers are a new creation.
2 Corinthians 5:17 (NKJV):
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
We are heirs of salvation; our purpose and our life are in Christ. The Father of lights has poured out His Spirit upon all flesh who believes in His Son, Jesus Christ.
Acts 2:17 (NKJV):
‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.’
Even Israel Must Believe
He exalted the begotten Son, Yeshua, who humbled Himself unto death and raised His name far above all.
Philippians 2:9–11 (NKJV):
Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
There is no other name under heaven for salvation.
Acts 4:12 (NKJV):
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.
Even the Israelites born after Christ must accept Him for salvation. Yes, we pray for Israel’s safety and for them to accept Jesus as their Savior and Messiah.
Genesis 12:3 (NKJV):
I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.
We do not judge them, but in love we pray that their eyes be opened to receive salvation, poured out by the Father through the death of His only begotten Son.
if I recall now Moses does speak on this,
In Deuteronomy 9:4-5 (NKJV), Moses says:
"Do not think in your heart, after the LORD your God has cast them out before you, saying, 'Because of my righteousness the LORD has brought me in to possess this land.' For you are a stiff-necked people. Rather, it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD is driving them out before you."
Here’s the essence:
Humility over pride – Israel should not assume their position is due to their own merit or righteousness. God’s favor is not earned by human goodness.
Judgment on wickedness – The reason the Canaanite nations were removed is their sinfulness, not Israel’s superiority. God’s actions are always righteous, and human goodness does not dictate His favor.
Spiritual principle – Often, God raises certain people or nations to prominence not because they are inherently better, but because of His purposes, and sometimes in contrast to the wickedness around them. This is a warning against pride and self-righteousness.
A Thick Spiritual Atmosphere
The atmosphere was so thick. I knew I was not just speaking to a confused man — this was someone who knew exactly what to ask and what subtle doubts to plant.
It reminded me of the serpent’s words in the garden:
Genesis 3:1, 4–5 (NKJV):
Has God indeed said, “You shall not eat of every tree of the garden”?…
You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened,
and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.
Just as the serpent suggested a false elevation, this man said, “We are the rulers in the millennium, not you. You will be under us.”
If we do not know our identity in Christ or the Word of God — both Old and New Testaments — we may begin to doubt our own salvation and think of God as unjust, as though He only cares about Abraham’s covenant.
2 Corinthians 11:14 (NKJV):
And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
The Apostolic Decision
I thought of Peter’s behavior with Gentiles — eating with them until Jewish believers arrived, then withdrawing out of fear. Paul rebuked him openly for hypocrisy.
Acts 15:7–11, 28–29 (NKJV):
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up and said to them:
“Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,
and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”
Final Assurance
He left puzzled, trying to plant doubt about my salvation or make me feel unworthy to be counted in millennial rulership. But as the Word of God says:
1 Corinthians 6:3 (NKJV):
Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?
As for me, I don’t care if I am a ruler or not. Like the prodigal son, I would be content to be a servant in my Father’s house.
Luke 15:22–24 (NKJV):
But the father said to his servants, ‘Bring out the best robe and put it on him,
and put a ring on his hand and sandals on his feet.
And bring the fatted calf here and kill it, and let us eat and be merry;
for this my son was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ And they began to be merry.
Why would all the angels rejoice over one sinner who repents if not for the greatness of salvation through Christ?
Luke 15:10 (NKJV):
Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.
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